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Thread: Problem with some words with accens

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    Default Problem with some words with accens

    Hello,
    Another problem i found, very extrange is that some words with accents are cuted in the vocal with the accent (by saying accent i mean this à).
    But some are well translated. Foe example this sentence is original in spanish and we got this in catalan:

    PHP Code:
    Només es traducirn els fòrums pròpiament per arael meu següent repte serà la galeray.

    En Teoriaaixò pot fer que d'aqu poc multipliquem les visites x2 al fòrum.

    Should be:
    Només es traduiran els fòrums pròpiament per ara, el meu següent repte serà la galeria.
     
    En Teoria, això pot fer que d'
    aquí poc multipliquem les visites x2 al fòrum 
    Last edited by pepito69; 04-07-10 at 18:16.

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    I found that it happens with every language, when translate to english also the "translator" eats some vocals. Why?

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    vBulletin Enterprise Translator (vBET) Staff
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    can you paste here this message:
    Code:
    Només es traduiran els fòrums pròpiament per ara, el meu següent repte serà la galeria.
     
    En Teoria, això pot fer que d'aquí poc multipliquem les visites x2 al fòrum
    in original version? (in first language)

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    Text automatically translated from: Spanish to: English
    Translated text
    Yes, of course:

    PHP Code:
    Solo se traducirán los foros propiamente por ahorami siguiente reto va a ser la galería.
    En teoríaesto puede hacer que de aquí poco multipliquemos las visitas x2 al foro 
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    I checked it on google and it is translated well.
    I checked it on my test forum and it is translated well too.

    Are you sure that you have done all the setup and integration steps of vBET described in the readme.html? Can you check it?

    If integration is ok, try to find a conflict with other mods. To do this, you should disable other mods without vBET.
    After that just try to find this issue.

    If not conflict, just send to me access to your forum admincp and FTP by PM. I will try to find a bug in our code and fix it.
    Last edited by kamilkurczak; 05-07-10 at 13:46.

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    Michał Podbielski (vBET Staff)
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    Text automatically translated from: Spanish to: English
    Translated text
    Only properly translate the forums for now, my next challenge will be to the gallery.
    In theory, this can make here shortly x2 multiply visits to the forum
    Original text

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    Michał Podbielski (vBET Staff)
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    It is working corectly - as you can see in my previous post after going to Catalan translation. I think that Google was translating in wrong way recently, it is already corrected by Google, but you have it still cached and that is why your forum still shows what you described.

    You can easily check it - just write on your forum new post with similar text, but with some changes (so it will not be taken from cache). I bet it will translate OK

    Please note that translation quality is Google issue. I know that it looks like we loose something, but you can check it here and on our forum with new messae that it is OK.

    Cache will expire in few days and translation will be taken again from Google - this time with better quality. It is good to have automatic cache cleaner

    Please confirm that it is like I described with new, changed message, so I will be able to close this issue.

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    This text was not translated, because it is originally in English Sorry it's not a Google problem

    It's not a cache problem... i did the test with new words:

    PHP Code:
    andarán
    comerán
    vería
    sería
    camión
    pelotón 
    And when i translate them to Catalan i get this:

    PHP Code:
    andarn
    comern
    vera
    serà
    camin
    pelotn 

    But with google translate webpage i get them in the right way:

    PHP Code:
    caminaran
    menjaran
    veuria
    seria
    camió
    gran grup 

    I have vbulletin and vbet as readme text says.

    But also in english:
    If i write in spanish this sentences (but now i wanted to make an experiment):

    PHP Code:
    seguramente estás muy contento (tricky)

    seguramente estás muy contento 
    To english:
    PHP Code:
    you're probably very happy

    certainly very happy EST 
    First translated sentence is right, not second.
    I can see now more problems, words with Ñ have problems also.
    PHP Code:
    añadir 
    is translated to english as: "aadir" and should be "add"
    As you can see, the translation destroys the original word and can not understand the meaning, and all has to do with special characters. My forum is not set as UTF-8, if you are interested.

    What could be the problem please?
    Last edited by pepito69; 06-07-10 at 06:38.

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    Michał Podbielski (vBET Staff)
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    I hecked again given text on forum in other encoding and it still looks fine (also I checked all the words you gave now and it is also OK). vBET fully supprtos forums not in utf-8 - most of our customers have forums in other encodings...

    Please make sure that message language is apropriatelly recognized. Does the message is inside of lang bbcode - if yes then please check that there is approprite language code. If not - does message is really in your forum default language. In booth cases - please put attenstion to vBET configuration for language detection. We suggest to use Google detection strategy.

    If message language is appropraiatelly recognized, then we chave to check it on your server, since we are not able to reproduce the issue - it even can be some Apache, php bug (we had once something like that in one customer and it was his php bug). In such case please PM Kamil access details for Admin CP and FTP. He will investigate the issue. Also you can try first to update your PHP version.

    Also please make sure that your forum default language is set appropriatelly.
    Last edited by vBET; 07-07-10 at 13:11.

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    Thanks,
    Could be a php problem, or something outside vbet. I will study this:
    it even can be some Apache, php bug (we had once something like that in one customer and it was his php bug)

    But in this case, this should be very very extrange.

    If not succes i will PM Kamil

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